1984 trivia[]
I'm not sure whether or not to delete the trivia regarding Aloy's birthday and the tenuous connection to the book 1984. The book doesn't really seem to have influenced the game, so I'm in favor of removing it. M67PattonZippo (talk) 11:39, August 20, 2017 (UTC)
- At my home wiki we tend to treat any triva that contain "may be a reference," "Is possibly a reference," etc as speculation, and delete it. In many cases those trivia bits are just fan theory. The Cat Master (talk) 05:03, August 21, 2017 (UTC)
- Ah, ok. Good idea. I'll let one of the admins or mods remove it. --M67PattonZippo (talk) 15:05, August 21, 2017 (UTC)
Eye color[]
I'm confused that her eye colour differs from Sobeck's. I mean it's determined by a person's genes, doesn't make sense for them to have different eye colours. Any clarification? Stomp on Shao (talk) 08:27, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- As stated in the trivia section, even identical twins are not 100% genetically identical. I think, and extreme emphasis on the think part, the different eye color has to do with Aloy's very slight genetic deviation. Metal (talk) 17:10, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
- Sobeck's eyes are green in Forbidden West- I'm guessing they only looked brown in HZD because of the purple-tinted hologram effect. Bearborg[ADMIN] (talk) 00:40, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
Seyka's Designation[]
I edited her affiliation to Aloy to read "optional love interest" as the flashpoint given to the player at the end of the DLC lead to different endings for the characters. I believe the addition of the detail "optional" accounts for all player decisions. Optional entails an ending wherein admission of feelings/romance is leaned into and specified if the player so chooses, but also allows for the other options to have equal weight. Leaving out the other player options isn't genuine. In fist/brain options Aloy explicitly denies the desire to pursue said feelings. And Seyka's dialogue indicates rejection as well, "my loss", she states. Thus I believe it's perfectly within the realm of reason to designate Seyka an Optional Love Interest, rather than simply love interest. As an LGBTQ player, my stance is an objective take. I believe it's important to maintain the integrity of a impactful decision on both characters so call it as it is. Which was optional, rather than that of a full blown love interest. —Unsigned comment by Mddoodler (talk • contribs).
- I am against this. This edit was in relation to new information that came from an interview with the lead writer. This information stated that Aloy always has feelings for Seyka no matter the final decision. This was said in the context of ensuring that flashpoints are consistent with previous events. The ending does not lead to different endings for the characters. As stated by the writers, all choices by the players have equal weight but the feelings between the characters isn’t affected by the choice. What is said by the other party isn’t correct by the statement of the writers. The other choices do not have Aloy explicitly denying the desire to pursue her feelings and this is reenforced with dialogue at Varl’s grave. As stated by the lead writer and narrative director, Aloy and Seyka always have romantic feelings for each other. The decision doesn’t affect that. All player decisions are accounted for regardless. The integrity of the decision remains, with the intentions of the writer also being conveyed. Optional is misleading since, by the definition of a love interest, as written by Oxford, is that of a character that plays a romantic role. Both characters do, regardless of the choice at the end. The edit is to stay consistent with information that is given by writers of the game itself, as this does not negate player decision, as described by the writers themselves.
- Sources:
- Interview with Annie and Ben: https://www.videogameschronicle.com/features/interviews/interview-guerilla-games-on-the-future-of-horizon-burning-shores-and-that-kiss/
- Definition of “love interest”: https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/love-interest
- —Unsigned comment by Randomsword11 (talk • contribs).
- I appreciate your explanation Mddoodler, and I can see how simply saying "love interest" might give the impression that Aloy and Seyka are "officially" in a relationship, when in fact the player can choose specifically against that outcome. However, I think it's worth noting that the definition of "love interest" is (per Wiktionary) "one who is of interest as a (potential) partner in love." To me, that seems like a sufficiently ambiguous description of Seyka, especially given that this is only a short parenthetical in the main infobox. Whether Aloy ultimately ends up in a relationship with Seyka or not, there is an unavoidable romantic storyline involving her.
- Btw, a quick reminder to anyone unfamiliar with Talk pages- comments should be signed, which can be done by typing ~~~~ at the end of your comment, or using the signature button in the editor. Additional info can be found at Help:Talk pages. Bearborg[ADMIN] (talk) 19:53, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
I wanted to say thank you for resolving this and all the hard work you do on this site. It is much appreciated. Thank you. Randomsword11 (talk) 19:59, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
Aloy’s age should be revised downward to 19.[]
I refer you to my entry in the Talk section of the Timeline page (“The timeline for both Horizon Zero Dawn and Horizon Forbidden West should be moved up by one year.”) for the reasoning why, but if my proposed edits to the Timeline were to be accepted, this would necessitate a revision of Aloy’s age (and all other characters with known ages as well) down one year to 19.
Response: Aloy has been confirmed as 20 years old by the time of Horizon Forbidden West by Ben McCaw.Mddoodler (talk) 11:10, 19 July 2023 (UTC)